Schoenberg vs Stravinsky: should music abolish its rules or reinvent them?

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SCHOENBERG vs STRAVINSKY go head to head — and every jab is rooted in real history.

SCHOENBERG

Tonality was a spent monarchy, so I freed all twelve tones to reign as equals — my method secures the future of German music for a hundred years.

STRAVINSKY

A future built on arithmetic! My Rite of Spring did not compute the key away, Arnold — it made an audience of Paris scream and dance in the same breath.

SCHOENBERG

Screaming is not structure; you plundered folk tunes and old masks while I dared to compose without a safety net beneath the ear.

STRAVINSKY

I steal from everyone — that is why I still sound alive; you locked yourself in a system, and even a prison of twelve tones is still a prison.

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