Escoffier vs Carême: should cuisine be an empire or a monument?

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ESCOFFIER vs CARÊME go head to head — and every jab is rooted in real history.

ESCOFFIER

I stripped away your towering excess and gave the kitchen a brigade, a system, a rhythm; each cook a station, each dish served hot and on time.

CARÊME

On time? I raised sugar into palaces and pastry into pyramids, Auguste - cooking is a fine art, and confectionery its highest branch.

ESCOFFIER

Your dinner grew cold while the guest admired the scaffolding; I fed the appetite, not the eye alone.

CARÊME

And yet the world still remembers a spun-sugar temple long after your consommé has cooled - a taste fades, but a monument is devoured by memory.

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